X-COM RP THINK TANK (part2)

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DarkGemini24601

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What? Really? I'm saying I don't want to talk about it because I don't like saying this stuff about something you worked so hard on, not because I can't disprove it!

And how am I supposed to convince you otherwise when this is MY OPINION. How do you know I'm not listening to what you're saying, I am, and you're being unfair to me by assuming that. You think I don't want to like it? I do, I really do. I'm trying very hard, but I just don't
I'm stating that the problem is you're acting like this contradicts the themes or structure of the story, and that's untrue.

It's fine to have an opinion, but I'm simply pointing out that you haven't given me a good reason why you don't like it. Yes, this is how you feel, but I can have an opinion that the sky is green. Doesn't mean it is.
 

Frostlich1228

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I'm stating that the problem is you're acting like this contradicts the themes or structure of the story, and that's untrue.

It's fine to have an opinion, but I'm simply pointing out that you haven't given me a good reason why you don't like it. Yes, this is how you feel, but I can have an opinion that the sky is green. Doesn't mean it is.

I've given you plenty of good reasons Gem, plenty... I don't think you're giving anything I say a chance here... That, or you're simply ignoring my reasons... You're not looking at MY opinion objectively, which I know is hard because you helped write the post.
 

ZombieSplitter53

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Alright, alright. No more, please. A debate is fine, but we have fairly established that Frost didn't care for it, and he has the right. You both have good points, so lets agree to disagree. I understand why you might not like the dark outlook (though I'm not the first person to do something dark:confused:), and that is okay, really.

Gem has a different view on it, and he's completely right about it. As for Frost's opinion... he's completely right, too. You guys have different views, that's all.
 

DarkGemini24601

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I've given you plenty of good reasons Gem, plenty... I don't think you're giving anything I say a chance here... That, or you're simply ignoring my reasons... You're not looking at MY opinion objectively, which I know is hard because you helped write the post.
Okay, I know Zombie said something, but hold on a second. Frost... you're saying I"m not giving anything you say a chance? I'm looking at it and saying that's untrue. Are you saying only you're allowed to have a 'valid' opinion?

If I could somehow convince you to like it (Not going to happen, I see. Not a surprise) then you'd be happier. If you convinced me not to like it, we'd both be unhappy and you'd be inspiring me to want to throw the idea away. See how these aren't equal comparisons here?
 

Frostlich1228

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Gemi. I'm done.

We've said what we wanted to say, it's time to just stop. We obviously arn't going to convince eachother of anything here.
 

Adrammalech

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Alright, I know there's a debate going on and all that, but I said I'd come back with composed thoughts. So, here's my opinion, take it or leave it. Like I said, the posts were well-written, albeit a little confusing with the different names and Acedia acting evil for a moment, which I didn't really get. The chases and the recaps were cool...I have some personal bias as to what happened, but since it wouldn't help anything, I'll keep it to myself. At least Old Emily died doing something for Sunny, which was realistic.

That said, I would've preferred the 3-post effort have gone into the last post, what actually happened. I mean, alarms blaring, everyone suiting up and piling into a battlecruiser, Morrigan rushing through the halls and waking everyone up. There would be no absence of tension and description in the real timeline here, but it was just "let's leave" and a few people get let out of cells. You two wanted to do something fun, and that's fine of course, and in the end I don't think it'll have a fundamental effect on our characters or stories...so, I guess I don't know what I think either way. I'll say I just enjoyed the posts in a vacuum, and move on. :)
 

DarkGemini24601

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Gemi. I'm done.

We've said what we wanted to say, it's time to just stop. We obviously arn't going to convince eachother of anything here.
If you want to stop, fine. But I do hope you honestly realize you're be unfair to me, regardless of what I've said. You keep deflecting or parrying what I say with baseless or confusing responses, and when you realize that you're maybe in the wrong here you try to act like the 'bigger person' and shut me down before my words sink in.

It's alright. If you want to sit in a box where your'e always right and never just being unfair, never wrong, that's fine. But you're going to find the world doesn't work like that.

I'm not trying to be mean, I'm really not. You're my friend Frost. I just don't want to see you hide under a shell when someone tells you you're wrong.
 

DarkGemini24601

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Alright, I know there's a debate going on and all that, but I said I'd come back with composed thoughts. So, here's my opinion, take it or leave it. Like I said, the posts were well-written, albeit a little confusing with the different names and Acedia acting evil for a moment, which I didn't really get. The chases and the recaps were cool...I have some personal bias as to what happened, but since it wouldn't help anything, I'll keep it to myself. At least Old Emily died doing something for Sunny, which was realistic.

That said, I would've preferred the effort have gone into the last post, what actually happened. I mean, alarms blaring, everyone suiting up and piling into a battlecruiser, Morrigan rushing through the halls and waking everyone up. There would be no absence of tension and description in the real timeline here, but it was just "let's leave" and a few people get let out of cells. You two wanted to do something fun, and that's fine of course, and in the end I don't think it'll have a fundamental effect on our characters or stories...so, I guess I don't know what I think either way. I'll say I just enjoyed the posts in a vacuum, and move on. :)
Well, the thing about that is that we'd have to have gotten you all together. Maybe we should have, lol. :rolleyes: Response might have been more positive then. But as it was, we couldn't expand upon the final post without bringing everyone together, and we simply didn't have time, what with everyone being unavailable this weekend.
 

ZombieSplitter53

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Everyone is entitled to how they feel. I think what Frost was saying is that he just doesn't like it, not because he won't give it a chance, but because he has and simply doesn't like it.

And Gem is not saying you have to like it. He is simply saying he would like you too, and is trying to convince you to give it a chance.

But Frost doesn't like it, and Gem does. Simple of that. I don't want to stop your debate, but I feel you are getting a little too heated, should stop for now, and if you want to continue, do so tomorrow after some rest.
 

Frostlich1228

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If you want to stop, fine. But I do hope you honestly realize you're be unfair to me, regardless of what I've said. You keep deflecting or parrying what I say with baseless or confusing responses, and when you realize that you're maybe in the wrong here you try to act like the 'bigger person' and shut me down before my words sink in.

It's alright. If you want to sit in a box where your'e always right and never just being unfair, never wrong, that's fine. But you're going to find the world doesn't work like that.

I'm not trying to be mean, I'm really not. You're my friend Frost. I just don't want to see you hide under a shell when someone tells you you're wrong.

Gemi. Sit and listen to yourself for a second. I always value other peoples opinions. I'm not hiding under my shell, I just want to stop this before this devolves into an argument... I don't know why you think I'm acting like a bigger person by wanting to stop this...
 

Adrammalech

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Well, the thing about that is that we'd have to have gotten you all together. Maybe we should have, lol. :rolleyes: Response might have been more positive then. But as it was, we couldn't expand upon the final post without bringing everyone together, and we simply didn't have time, what with everyone being unavailable this weekend.

I think people would've been open to writing a short paragraph of everyone getting out of their hangovers or naps or whatever they're doing and rushing away. I would've at least. It wouldn't really need to be a full-on everyone-get-in-here collab, just "hey we're about to do a big evacuation, send me a small clipping of how you want your guys to react."
 

ZombieSplitter53

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Alright, I know there's a debate going on and all that, but I said I'd come back with composed thoughts. So, here's my opinion, take it or leave it. Like I said, the posts were well-written, albeit a little confusing with the different names and Acedia acting evil for a moment, which I didn't really get. The chases and the recaps were cool...I have some personal bias as to what happened, but since it wouldn't help anything, I'll keep it to myself. At least Old Emily died doing something for Sunny, which was realistic.

That said, I would've preferred the 3-post effort have gone into the last post, what actually happened. I mean, alarms blaring, everyone suiting up and piling into a battlecruiser, Morrigan rushing through the halls and waking everyone up. There would be no absence of tension and description in the real timeline here, but it was just "let's leave" and a few people get let out of cells. You two wanted to do something fun, and that's fine of course, and in the end I don't think it'll have a fundamental effect on our characters or stories...so, I guess I don't know what I think either way. I'll say I just enjoyed the posts in a vacuum, and move on. :)
I am honestly sorry about that, and if we had more time, I would have. You're free to put a post about the evacuation tomorrow or Sunday while I set up the mission with the Honored Overseer and Phobos. I wish we could have come together, but... it would have been too hard.

And sorry about the Acedia thing if it was confusing. The idea was she was posing as another Ethereal, using their mask.
 

MarineAvenger

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This is me...this is what I have been reduced to after this week...school sucked, little sleep, and all around people IRL have been dickish to me lately (none of you). So allow me to say good work, good night, and see you in hell.
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BMPixy

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Anyways, since we're all dropping change here, I might as well throw in my two cents also.

My final thoughts on this set of posts (if it can be called 'final') are that it simply caught us off-guard. I probably would have done it a bit differently (*cough furball of aircraft from all over the world*) but hey, you guys did what you felt was best, can't fault you for it. Time will tell how this changes everything, but all I can say is that I'm glad that I get another Desperatio post out of it.
 

ZombieSplitter53

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Anyways, since we're all dropping change here, I might as well throw in my two cents also.

My final thoughts on this set of posts (if it can be called 'final') are that it simply caught us off-guard. I probably would have done it a bit differently (*cough furball of aircraft from all over the world*) but hey, you guys did what you felt was best, can't fault you for it. Time will tell how this changes everything, but all I can say is that I'm glad that I get another Desperatio post out of it.
That is a fair statement. Thank you.
 

DarkGemini24601

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Anyways, since we're all dropping change here, I might as well throw in my two cents also.

My final thoughts on this set of posts (if it can be called 'final') are that it simply caught us off-guard. I probably would have done it a bit differently (*cough furball of aircraft from all over the world*) but hey, you guys did what you felt was best, can't fault you for it. Time will tell how this changes everything, but all I can say is that I'm glad that I get another Desperatio post out of it.
Oh, and if it isn't obvious, the time travel was a one time thing. So don't worry about that making another appearance. No one wants to die like that unless its absolutely necessary. :eek:
It was there. Atka died in a badass way for it! :cool:
 
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