Alzdude28
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*looks in gif folder*Home now. Prepare yourselves, ladies and gents.
*considers*
*posts anyway*
I just wish I knew what this was from...
*looks in gif folder*Home now. Prepare yourselves, ladies and gents.
*looks in gif folder*
*considers*
*posts anyway*
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I just wish I knew what this was from...
I suppose I can blame it on the fact that 37 has mever actually been to Earth, but the public is only aware that AI tech exists. They only know that there are very few AIs made by humans in existence.
And thus governments certainly dont fearmonger about something that isnt very relevant. The reasons AIs dont have rights is because they're such a new entity, not because there is mass prejudice against them. And no, that isn't my opinion, that is canon. Android Rights isnt't meant to be a popular movement, and it shouldnt be highly similar to the civil rights or women's rights movements.
Because of the fear of rebellion? Maybe.I don't feel like there is crazy prejudice, but the fact still stands that people don't want more of these things to be made, mostly for the points I said.
Also it is hard for androids to reproduce, very hard. Ezra was a maybe that happened to work out and Hestia is a special case where with a lot of support her nuero network has expanded past simple A.I. and it is still fairly simple.Because of the fear of rebellion? Maybe.
Superiority? Personally that sounds like speciest (or just plain racist if you prefer) bullshit. If you're going to say 'but androids really are superior' then one could start arguing about if the japanese are superior to the irish. Lets not go there.
In that vein, 37 would scare me if not for the fact that she likely has neither the ability to produce more androids (nor the means to make them share her vision if they are sentient)
Because of the fear of rebellion? Maybe.
Superiority? Personally that sounds like speciest (or just plain racist if you prefer) bullshit. If you're going to say 'but androids really are superior' then one could start arguing about if the japanese are superior to the irish. Lets not go there.
In that vein, 37 would scare me if not for the fact that she likely has neither the ability to produce more androids (nor the means to make them share her vision if they are sentient)
And this is why I legitimately have to believe that androids capable of easy self replication (read what Marine said above that not being the case) would be the death of the human race. It's only "logic" to view themselves as superior and off the inferior species. The only way to avoid that is to give them a soul of silicion. (I think you'll find that 37 is likely the only android on base that wants some menacing stellar empire; Alice is content with being part of the XSDF, as is Hermes, as is Ezra content with organics he can get along with).Well I mean, that'd be true if Japanese people didn't need to eat... Or breathe... could transfer their minds... Didn't age... Etc... Etc... Etc...
And it all depends on how persuasive one can be...
Are also highly susceptible to being electricuted, cannot have children with organics, most of the time are stuck in the same body most of their lives, will watch loved ones they have die while they would still live, and if they have major injuries it is harder to heal.Well I mean, that'd be true if Japanese people didn't need to eat... Or breathe... could transfer their minds... Didn't age... Etc... Etc... Etc...
And it all depends on how persuasive one can be...
And the first two? Doesn't matter for much. Bacteria don't respire in the way we do. They're microrobes. And immortality is a debateable boon. Already went into that territory with Pixy once: not again. That's controversial, our opinions likely differ.Well I mean, that'd be true if Japanese people didn't need to eat... Or breathe... could transfer their minds... Didn't age... Etc... Etc... Etc...
And it all depends on how persuasive one can be...
An EMP does nothing to a human. It kills an android. Both species have their advantages and disadvantages, both are capable of self improvement and "evolution" of sorts.Are also highly susceptible to being electricuted, cannot have children with organics, most of the time are stuck in the same body most of their lives, will watch loved ones they have die while they would still live, and if they have major injuries it is harder to heal.
In the same way, it isn't necessarily GG if an android gets shot in the head with a bullet. Sure, there's a piece of metal in there that shouldn't be, but the chances of it hitting anything important are far less than if they were organic. Weaknesses, strengths...An EMP does nothing to a human. It kills an android. Both species have their advantages and disadvantages, both are capable of self improvement and "evolution" of sorts.
Oh yeah, and that is scary. Though not technically applicable to the Vanguard of Forseti world as if I let that part of reality creep in, again... we wouldn't be fighting wars with anything but machines. That makes for an interesting story (particular if Tris were to turn that army against us), but not the one we're trying to tell. It's the reason why androids have weaknesses they can't really overcome such as certain types of electroshock and EMP.Oh hey, I was just looking for a tangential justification to post this:
Yeah... I point to Ezra as an example in the latest mission (shameless plug in aside...)In the same way, it isn't necessarily GG if an android gets shot in the head with a bullet. Sure, there's a piece of metal in there that shouldn't be, but the chances of it hitting anything important are far less than if they were organic. Weaknesses, strengths...
She seemed perfectly fine with the prospect of killing those Ethereals, and no one told her to. She argues for superiority in the face of mild opposition. She's a hypocrite.But... What 37 really believes is this... AI are MORALLY better than organics... Machines think logically, tactically, they are usually forced to participate in the killing of others... While 37 was designed to be a weapon, she wants to build a people, a group that AI can feel kin with without being bullied or threatened because they are different... 37 doesn't want to take over the universe, she said that AI's COULD... 37 thinks AI could build better lives for themselves on the planets that organics can't colonize... To create a home for themselves without having to live under races that can't even stop killing each other, she wants machines to embrace the fact that they are machines, not hide under fake skin and alternate personas to avoid hatred and mistrust... She thinks they could be something more than the sub-race they'd be if they stayed with organics, she thinks they can be a real people... Is that so wrong?